As Polygeo has pointed out, and placed on hold, my question on Cartographic jokes Examples of cartographic 'jokes' was trying to build a list. I hadn't really appreciated that this didn't fit SE.

I had thought about rephrasing the question, perhaps along the lines of inconsistencies introduced to maps because the comment from Mappagnosis is interesting and something I didn't know. But then I thought that it could just end up being a bit a lame question and not that useful to the site.

Plus it does have an answer already that answers the original question and starts the 'list'.

There are downvotes coming in, which is fair enough, and so I went to delete it but the pop-up recommends against it.

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Any thoughts, is it worth salvaging or shall I just lose it?


If you click Delete Question on that dialog for that question I think that you will not be able to do so, because it has an answer with a net upvote. However, the moderators can override that and delete both your question and any answers to it if you or anyone else flags them, and whoever actions it (unilaterally; or after discussion in the mod room, which I prefer) agrees that it should be removed. Alternatively, if the answerer deletes their answer, then you will be able to delete your question.

Your suggestion of trying to salvage your question is not impossible, but I think any effort to do so would gut what I think to be the original intent of your question i.e. to assemble a list of similar examples.

My position on list questions is largely shaped by this Meta Q&A, and especially by @Shog9's answer:

We could use better management of popular, but "bad" questions

and is largely described in my answer to:

Should older questions not meeting current standards be closed or locked?

Your question was new, but to me it had all the hallmarks of being another "list of interesting maps" Q&A. I had no hesitation voting for its closure when I saw it and a quick answer, because I think it is a potentially popular but bad question for focussed Q&A.

One possible way to shoe horn it into staying is to make it Community Wiki, and Wiki Lock it, but The Future of Community Wiki generally discourages using Community Wiki nowadays. A Wiki Lock allows the answer to continue to be edited by anyone, and is not the same as an Historical Lock.

If it is not focused Q&A then I find it very hard to make a case for a question on cartographic "jokes" to stay open on a site promoting focused Q&A, and for me Community Wiki is very much a tool of last resort.

  • I am against historical locking for reasons explained here; however I agree this type of question should be closed (i.e., not a good fit for GIS SE). About the first sentence of your answer, you are right. See: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/74466/…. And also, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5221/…. Aug 13 '17 at 21:48
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    My opinion about what to do in this situation is to convert the question and answer to CW, and close the post as 'too broad'. Aug 13 '17 at 21:58
  • As an interim measure I've done what you suggest @AndreSilva but am really hoping that it won't become another Beautiful Maps, and lead to others trying to ask an even "better" Beautiful Maps question.
    – PolyGeo Mod
    Aug 14 '17 at 6:25
  • Ok; I think if a question is closed it sends a direct message it is "off-topic". CW will not allow rep farming. Aug 14 '17 at 13:08
  • Thanks for the links, and comments, especially the links to info about Community Wiki. It is not completely clear what the right course of action is for me in particular so what I shall do is flag it for moderator attention and then I presume those in the know, and understand the ins and outs of the site and its ethos will do what is appropriate. Aug 14 '17 at 18:26
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    I've deleted my answer, now you can delete the question
    – HDunn
    Aug 15 '17 at 3:59
  • @AndreSilva The question was re-opened (not by my vote) and another answer added to the list. I have now wiki-locked it and will discuss with the other moderators whether there is any more suitable course of action.
    – PolyGeo Mod
    Aug 18 '17 at 22:26
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    @PolyGeo, yes; I did not know what to do. I feel it is an awkward situation, HDunn has already deleted his answer. However, I am against using locks for such purposes (they seem to not fit the system). Historical locks are bad, users can't edit their own posts. Wiki locks with just one answer is also odd; CW is collaborative effort, but it does not necessary will take any type of edit, and with a one-take-all-content answer is difficult to manage in the long term (no sorting by voting, OP can't control what is added --> chaos). Aug 18 '17 at 22:42
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    In case, there is not consensus for closing, here is an alternative suggestion: invite HDunn to undelete his answer, keep question and all answers CW, protect the question so to avoid spamming of answers from very new users. Observe results (I think it will work). @PolyGeo. Aug 18 '17 at 22:46
  • @AndreSilva I predict the result would be this question floating towards the position Beautiful Maps occupies in gis.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=votes where it acts as a beacon to new users, who will probably not notice and are very unlikely to understand CW, and instead think "wow, a quirky question on this forum could get me mega rep". I think we are trying to exemplify focused Q&A and questions like this do not - they promote list seeking questions.
    – PolyGeo Mod
    Aug 18 '17 at 22:52

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